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Let's Discuss Small Dogs, Cats & Caged Birds at 9400 |
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Let's Discuss Small Dogs, Cats & Caged Birds at 9400 |
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Committee Work |
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I've shown, below, a fair summary of committee discussion of this issue. |
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| Initial Report of the Incident: Owner's letter to 9400 BOD | Posted 7/26/09 |
| House Rules and Regulations #5: Renters and guests may not have a pet of any kind. | Posted 7/26/09 |
| By-Laws Section 15.3. Waiver: No restrictions, conditions, obligations, or provisions contained in these By-Laws shall be deemed to have been abrogated or waived by reason of any failure to enforce the same, irrespective of the number of violations or breaches thereof which may occur. | Posted 7/26/09 |
| By-Laws Section 6.5 (e) Prohibited Uses and Nuisances: ...this shall not prohibit the keeping of small dogs, cats and/or caged birds as domestic pets... | Posted 7/26/09 |
| Email to BOD Announcing Web Page: Document establishment of web page and intended use. | Posted 7/26/09 |
| Email From BOD Questioning Website/Letter: BOD requests delay in announcement of website | Posted 7/30/09 |
| Email to BOD: Website announcement postponed. | Posted 7/30/09 |
| Email From Joe McCarthy: Suggestion from Joe McCarthy - Contact Bea Lombardi - (Scroll to Bottom) | Posted 7/30/09 |
| Email to BOD: Conversation with Bea Lombardi re: No Pets | Posted 7/31/09 |
| By-Laws Section 1.3 The mere acquisition or rental of any of the units of the Project or the mere act of occupancy of any of the units will signify that these By-Laws are accepted, ratified, binding and will be complied with by all persons so acquiring , renting or occupying such unit. | Posted 8/5/09 |
| Email From Bill Delmar (Summary): Do not announce website by email prior to the announcement in US Mail Sept 1. BOD will define required changes to website. | Posted 8/6/09 |
| Email Reply to Bill Delmar (Summary): Requested changes due to Roth NLT August 21. There will be no owner announcement and no owner input prior to September 1. Project delayed. | Posted 8/6/09 |
| Welcome Margot Chappell to
Committee Hello, Margot. Thank you for your note and for volunteering to serve on the 9400 Pet Committee. I've posted your email under the "Owner Comments" tab on the Pet Committee website where I will also post this response. My expectation is that almost all committee discussion will be carried out via email. That will allow us to post comments on the website and aid in making the committee's work transparent. For the next two weeks or so, my plan is to only collect and post comments from owners. Then we'll have a much better idea of what we need to discuss and what needs significant reaction. Committee discussion will follow the collection of comments. There are several things on my mind that I think will eventually become part of the project discussion. You might be thinking about such things as rights and obligations of pet owners and non-pet owners, the definition of the term "small dogs," the effectiveness of dog tags, the potential liability of the condo association in the event of a serious dog attack on a child, how to react to reports of overly aggressive animals, and many other things. I'm also slightly concerned that you may have misinterpreted my thoughts about responding to a first offense and then escalating responses for subsequent violations. My hope is to avoid the first offense and respond strongly to a first offense so as to ensure that there is no chance of a subsequent violation. For now, let's watch the website to see how owners respond to our request for identification of problems and potential solutions. JR |
Posted 9/1/09 |
| Launn Polizzi Joins Committee
(Also Posted to Owner Comments) I am the owner of the 2 boxers that reside in 803. My name is Luann Polizzi and I am willing to be on this committee. |
Posted 9/5/09 |
| Annette Berul Joins Committee
(Also Posted to Owner Comments) Annette said she would help you although we will not be here after the 1st week in October. Tom told me that there is a definition of small dogs in the Hartz food manual, which may be useful. |
Posted 9/5/09 |
| Committee Membership Closed Having heard from no additional volunteers in the last week, committee membership is officially constituted as John Roth, Margot Chappell, Luann Polizzi, and Annette Berul. |
Posted 9/12/09 |
| Preliminary List of Discussion Topics Click here to see the list | Posted 9/13/09 |
| Margot Chooses Small Dogs As First Discussion Topic Click here to see Margot's eMail | Posted 9/14/09 |
| Questions About Registration and Tagging Who is entitled to a tag? | Posted 9/15/09 |
| Margot's Comments re Small Dogs Small Dogs + County, OC Dog Laws | Posted 9/16/09 |
| Request to 9400 Office Please Supply List of Pet Owners | Posted 9/16/09 |
| Judi Segermark Joins Committee (Also Posted to Owner Comments) Message | Posted 9/17/09 |
| Size, Indemnification, and By-Laws Is any of this important? | Posted 9/17/09 |
| Size, By-Laws Response From Larry and Annette Berul | Posted 9/18/09 |
| Margot's Response to John See Response | Posted 9/18/09 |
| Committee Membership is Closed See Note (Also Posted to Owner Comments) | Posted 9/18/09 |
| By-Laws and Insurance See Note | Posted 9/18/09 |
| Sep 19, 2009 BOD Meeting Comments re Pet Committee John's Meeting Notes | Posted 9/19/09 |
| Question For Our Insurance Agent Liability For Failure to Enforce By-Laws | Posted 9/20/09 |
| Margot's Attorney Interprets Our By-Laws For Us It's OK To Bring ANY Dog For Fewer Than 30 Days??? | Posted 9/22/09 |
| Do We Consult OUR Attorney Or Not Do We Consult Our Attorney? | Posted 9/22/09 |
| Margot Dismisses The By-Laws Issue "Now that we have completed the by-laws portion..." | Posted 9/23/09 |
| By-Laws Issue is Not Closed By-Laws Issue Remains Open Pending BOD Action | Posted 9/23/09 |
| Berul Response Contacting Our Attorney Seems Reasonable | Posted 9/24/09 |
| From BOD Member Grayce Cohen Thanks To Committee | Posted 9/24/09 |
| Margot Asks "What Seems Reasonable?" | Posted 9/24/09 |
| John Replies This Seems Reasonable | Posted 9/24/09 |
| Margot Replies "My Attorney Is My Husband" | Posted 9/26/09 |
| Berul and Roth Agree Margot's Husband's Credentials Are Indeed Impressive | Posted 9/26/09 |
| Next Steps Please Give The BOD The Opportunity To Respond | Posted 9/26/09 |
| Moving Forward Without Response | Posted 10/1/09 |
| Beruls Agree With Next Steps | Posted 10/2/09 |
| Follow Up re Question For Our Insurance Agent | Posted 10/3/09 |
| Initial Input From Luann Didn't Receive the By-Laws | Posted 10/3/09 |
| John's Reply Here's A Summary of My Point of View | Posted 10/3/09 |
| We Should Contact Our Insurance Agent | Posted 10/4/09 |
| A First Draft to Consider | Posted 10/6/09 |
| Margot Suggests That We're Finished | Posted 10/7/09 |
| Work To Do | Posted 10/7/09 |
| Margot Requests Clarification | Posted 10/7/09 |
| John Tries To Clarify | Posted 10/7/09 |
| Insurance Agent Responds (Partially) - All Animal Rules Must Be Enforced Uniformly | Posted 10/9/09 |
| Need a More Specific Answer From Our Agent | Posted 10/9/09 |
| Beruls, Margot Will Contribute To Final Recommendation | Posted 10/9/09 |
| Judy Suggests A Survey of Owners | Posted 10/9/09 |
| But We've Already Done That | Posted 10/9/09 |
| Judi Didn't Receive The Letter With Her September Invoice and we should cancel the project | Posted 10/10/09 |
| A Copy of the September 1 Letter For Judi | Posted 10/10/09 |
| Will Judi Remain A Committee Member? | Posted10/10/09 |
| Add'l Reply From Insurance Agent $1mm Coverage | Posted10/15/09 |
| Revised Draft Recommendation 10/15/09 | Posted 10/15/09 |
| Margot Response To Prelim Rec Rejects Recommendation A | Posted 10/19/09 |
| Can We Agree To Revise The Recommendation? | Posted 10/19/09 |
| Margot Opts Out and Knows That The BOD Will Make The Right Decision | Posted 10/23/09 |
| Luann Opts Out and Will Also Fight To Continue to Disregard the By-Laws | Posted 10/24/09 |
| DISCUSSION CLOSED AS OF 10/28/09 - THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST | |
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